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Posted: Sunday, 27 April 2008 8:40AM

Nicole Paultre Bell: "Justice System Let Me Down"

      SEAN BELL VERDICT

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Sharpton Promises Action
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Cops Acquitted in Bell Case

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Nicole Paultre Bell Vows Action (Maloney)
Protesters Take Queens Blvd (Sheridan)
The Verdict (Papa)
Cop Apologizes (Sandberg)
Bloomberg Reacts (Brooks)
Sharpton Promises Action (Jones)
Queens DA Reacts (Rivera)
Mike Palladino Speaks
Police Commissioner Kelly Speaks
PBA President Pat Lynch Speaks
Mayor Bloomberg Speaks

The fiancee of an unarmed man shot to death by police on his wedding day said Saturday that "the justice system let me down" when the three detectives were acquitted of all charges in his killing.

"April 25, 2008: They killed Sean all over again," Nicole Paultre Bell softly told hundreds of people gathered at the headquarters of the Rev. Al Sharpton's National Action Network. "That's what it felt like to us."

1010 WINS VIDEO: Nicole Paultre Bell Speaks
1010 WINS AUDIO: Kathleen Maloney Reports

Paultre Bell, in her first public remarks since storming out of a courtroom Friday after the NYPD detectives were cleared in 23-year-old Sean Bell's killing, said she would seek another decision in the case.

"I'm still praying for justice because it's not over," she said.

Joseph Guzman, who was wounded in the barrage of 50 police gunshots outside a Queens strip club on Bell's wedding day in 2006, also spoke for the first time since Friday's verdict to supporters at Sharpton's Harlem offices.

"We've got a long fight," he said. "We're still in it. ... We're going to struggle. We're going to get through."

Later, Bell's family, Guzman and Sharpton joined more than 300 people marching through more than 20 blocks in Harlem. Fifty demonstrators carried white placards bearing numbers for the shots fired at Bell and his friends.

Sharpton lambasted the judge who acquitted the detectives, saying a jury should been seated to decide guilt or innocence. Sharpton has threatened to "shut the city down" with organized civil disobedience.

If history is a guide, the Bell family may indeed still have a chance at extracting some measure of retribution, but it may be likely to come at the expense of the city and not the officers who pulled the trigger.

Legal experts said Bell's family faces an uphill fight in their attempt to have the officers charged with federal civil rights violations, and might have to settle for attacking them in civil court, where the city, not the officers, would be responsible for paying off any multimillion-dollar verdict.

Peter J. Neufeld, an attorney who represented police torture victim Abner Louima, said he believed that the chances that the U.S. Attorney's office would bring federal charges in the case were ``close to zero,'' based on Justice Department decisions in past police shooting cases.

While federal prosecutors have been willing to prosecute police officers for civil rights violations before, most famously in the case of Los Angeles brutality victim Rodney King, they have hesitated to take on cases where officers have had to make a quick decision whether or not to open fire on a person they perceived to be dangerous.

No civil rights charges were brought in the 1999 case of Amadou Diallo, an unarmed African immigrant shot to death in the vestibule of a Bronx apartment building by officers who mistook his wallet for a gun, or in the case of Eleanor Bumpurs, a mentally ill, 66-year-old black woman who was killed by two shotgun blasts fired by a police officer evicting her from her apartment in the Bronx in 1984.

``The split-second nature of the decision to shoot,'' Neufeld said, makes it difficult for prosecutors to argue that the officers knowingly acted to deprive someone of a constitutional right.

Bell's family and the two survivors of the shooting may have better luck, though, with their civil lawsuit against the city. 

New York has a long history of multimillion-dollar payouts as a result of civil lawsuits brought by the families of men and women slain or beaten by police, including many settlements in cases where the officers were acquitted of criminal responsibility.

Even if the case goes to trial in civil court, Bell's family is in a good position for a victory, said Bob Conason, an attorney who helped Diallo's mother wrest a $3 million settlement from the city.

``This certainly doesn't kill the civil case,'' Conason said of Friday's acquittal.

``Yes, they will have to try the case over again,'' he said, but the standard for proving that the officers used excessive force is much lower in a civil court. ``We had the exact same thing in Diallo, and we were not that concerned about winning the civil case,'' even after the initial verdicts of not guilty, Conason said.

An exoneration in a criminal investigation also wasn't an obstacle for the families of Patrick Dorismond, an unarmed black security guard whose family won a $2.25 million settlement from the city after his shooting by a narcotics detective in 2000, or for relatives of Timothy Stansbury, who settled for $2 million after the 19-year-old was shot by a startled officer on a Brooklyn rooftop in 2004. Grand juries had declined to indict in either case.

That doesn't mean that the road to victory will be easy for the Bell family, even in civil court.

The lengthy trial of detectives Michael Oliver, Gescard Isnora and Marc Cooper produced some moments damaging to the family's claim that the officers had no cause to fear for their safety.

Judge Arthur Cooperman noted in his written decision on the case that some of the prosecution witnesses who had given the most damning account of the officers' conduct had changed their stories regarding the circumstances of the shooting, which he said ``had the effect of eviscerating'' their credibility.

While not mentioning him by name, the judge also seemed to take aim at Guzman as he described a witness with a criminal history and a poor demeanor on the witness stand. Guzman had been combative as he was cross-examined about the shooting and has served jail time. The police detectives said they decided to confront Bell's party as they left the strip club because they believed Guzman was going to his car to retrieve a gun after an earlier argument.

Yet, even considering those factors, Conason said it might be in the city's best interest to settle, rather than risk polarizing citizens by defending the detectives' conduct in court.

``I would hope they figure, 'Enough of this. It's not good for the city. It's not good for the department,''' Conason said. The Rev. Al Sharpton said he would meet with members of Congress in an attempt to elicit their help getting the Justice Department involved in the case.

Regardless of what the city decides to do, Bell's family and his friends say they aren't going to give up.

In his ruling Friday, Justice Arthur Cooperman said inconsistent testimony, courtroom demeanor and rap sheets of the prosecution witnesses - mainly Bell's friends - "had the effect of eviscerating" their credibility.

"At times, the testimony just didn't make sense," the judge said.

The verdict elicited gasps as well as tears of joy and sorrow. Detective Michael Oliver, who fired 31 of the shots, wept at the defense table, while Bell's mother cried in the packed courtroom. Shouts of "Murderers! Murderers!" and "KKK!" rang out outside the courthouse.

Protests followed later Friday, and police said two demonstrators were arrested near the shooting site. One was arrested on a disorderly conduct charge, the other on a charge of obstructing governmental administration, police said.

Oliver and Gescard Isnora were acquitted of charges that included manslaughter, assault and reckless endangerment. The third officer, Marc Cooper, faced lesser charges.

After the verdict, the officers gave brief statements without taking questions. "I'd like to say sorry to the Bell family for the tragedy," an emotional Cooper said.

Bell was killed outside the strip club as he was leaving his bachelor party. The officers - undercover detectives who were investigating reports of prostitution at the club - said they thought one of the men had a gun.

The slaying heightened tensions in the city and stoked long-standing allegations of racism and excessive use of force by police, even though two of the officers charged are black.

The officers complained that pretrial publicity had unfairly painted them as cold-blooded killers.

After the verdict, the U.S. attorney's office said it would look into the case and "take appropriate action if the evidence indicates a prosecutable violation of federal criminal civil rights statutes."

The officers, who had been on paid leave, also face possible departmental charges that could result in their firing.

The case brought back painful memories of other New York police shootings, such as the 1999 killing of Amadou Diallo, an African immigrant who was gunned down in a barrage of 41 bullets by officers who mistook his wallet for a gun. The acquittal of the officers in that case led to days of protests, with hundreds arrested.

The defense in the two-month trial painted the victims as drunken thugs who the officers believed were armed and dangerous. Prosecutors sought to convince the judge that the victims had been minding their own business, and that the officers were inept, trigger-happy cowboys.

Bell's wounded companions - Guzman and Trent Benefield - both testified.

Guzman, a burly ex-convict who still has four police bullets lodged in his body, grew combative during cross-examination and said of Isnora: "This dude is shooting like he's crazy, like he's out of his mind."

None of the officers took the stand. Instead, the judge heard transcripts of the officers telling a grand jury that they believed they had good reason to use deadly force.

The officers said that when the club closed around 4 a.m., they heard Guzman say "Yo, go get my gun" - something Bell's friends denied.

Isnora claimed that after he warned the men to halt, Bell pulled away in his car, bumped him and rammed an unmarked police van. The detective also said Guzman made a sudden move as if he were reaching for a gun.

Benefield and Guzman testified that there were no orders from the police.

No weapon was found in Bell's blood-splattered, bullet-riddled car. 

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Show Comments
04/25/2008 9:30AM
Cops Acquitted in Bell Case
Three NYPD officers have been acquitted of all charges in the 50-shot killing of an unarmed man on his wedding day. Share your thoughts on the verdict here.
04/25/2008 9:34AM
unbelievable
i am shocked
04/25/2008 9:36AM
ACQUITTED
NOW SHE WILL HAVE TO GET A JOB AND SUPPORT HER KIDS LIKE EVERY OTHER PERSON DOES INSTEAD OF LIVING OFF THE SYSTEM SHE NOT THE FIRST PERSON TO LOSE HER BOYFRIEND AND HAVE TO RAISE KIDS ON HER OWN IN THE LAST 2 YEARS HAS ANYONE SEEN HER WORK NO SHE RUNS AROUND WITH SHARPTON ALL DAY
04/25/2008 9:36AM
Abby
I'm not surprised. The US has been condtioned to believe that black life has no value.
04/25/2008 9:37AM
Murdering scum
Another step towards making this the Police State of America. I hope the pigs, and the judge, get theirs.
04/25/2008 9:39AM
Chooch182
Outrageous Verdict impeach the incompetent Judge
04/25/2008 9:39AM
Cops acquitted in Bell case
IT Figures, Cops always get away with murder-litterally. Prayers to the Bell family.
04/25/2008 9:40AM
Adm. Asst.
It is a tragedy and I really feel for the Bell family. However, the Officers were faced with a split second decision and reacted accordingly. I feel for all involved.
04/25/2008 9:40AM
great
Justice was done, they established that they feared for thelives and the lives of others. let this be a message to those whointend to do harm to others.
04/25/2008 9:41AM
KARMA
We all get ours in the end.
04/25/2008 9:42AM
"WOW"
MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON THOSE POLICE OFFICERS' SOUL. GOD HELP THEM GOD HELP THEM.
04/25/2008 9:47AM
I'm embarrassed
Im embarassed. I work in NY and this is just stupid. Just because you can wield a gun does not make you the king of sheba. Who the f*** shoots 50 times? sick. sick sick sick
04/25/2008 9:48AM
The Truth Always Prevails
I am so glad the verdict was not guilty.
04/25/2008 9:50AM
Justice
Justice has been served. Thank god.
04/25/2008 9:52AM
Chooch182
In response to the Moron "ACQUITTED". If this happened to someone in your family,I wonder how you would feel?Would you continue to write your idiotic comments for all to see how much of a fool you really are?
04/25/2008 9:54AM
Unbelievable...
Again, the fascist state wins out over the common people. Welcome to Totalitarianism.
04/25/2008 9:56AM
Open Season on Blacks CH
Since Oliver is so trigger happy, send our troops home and send him to Irac!!!
04/25/2008 9:58AM
GOOD!
Maybe this will teach those who believe that violence solves problems ("Go get my gat!") only creates a worse situation. Sorry for the families, but these guys were thugs, and there's only one way out for a thug. Don't blame the NYPD for trying to protect us from thugs!
04/25/2008 9:58AM
Business As Usual
A black man's life has no value in the City of New York.
04/25/2008 9:59AM
GOD IS THE TRUE JUDGE
They can get away with murder in life but they will have to face the real judge to be sentenced for eternity.
04/25/2008 10:00AM
I support the NYPD
The police are here to protect us from harm. This is what they were doing. If Bell & his friends had nothing to hide and did no wrong, why did they get in their car, and try to run tem down?
04/25/2008 10:01AM
This is crazy!!!
I walk past the spot where the shooting was everyday, and everyday I look UP at the AirTrain platform where one of the bullets shattered the glass and almost killed a TRULY INNOCENT patron. How does someone shoot UP when they're supposed to be shooting at a car on the ground and not be convicted of reckless endangerment? How does someone shoot into a house across the street from the shooting scene and not be convicted of reckless endangerment? How does someone who is supposed to have specialized training shoot 31 times, taking time to reload (but apparently not taking time to reassess the situation)not be convicted of anything? This verdict and all the others just reaffirms to cops that they are above the law. But why? Me, you, in that same situation, we're going to jail for something. They're supposed to be trained, supposed to KNOW how to handle the situation and they get off? Why?
04/25/2008 10:02AM
Sad...
Either way things went down, it was a horrible tragedy.
04/25/2008 10:03AM
What is reckless endangerment?
One of those bullets went UP into the AirTrain station and almost hit a guy up there in the head. How did the bullet go UP? Isn't that reckless endangerment?
04/25/2008 10:03AM
NOT A SURPRISE
MEMO TO ALL COPS: ACCORDING TO THE LAWS OF NYC..YOU KNOW HAVE THE RIGHT TO KILL ALL BLACK MEN! IM SICK, SICK, SICK, SICK. ONCE AGAIN, COPS CAN DO NO WRONG. ITS TIME FOR JUSTICE BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!!
04/25/2008 10:05AM
ProtectYourSelf
So now is it going to be okay for a citizen to fear for his or her life when a cop approaches them and lawfully shoot that cop? Why is it that black cops never shoot white men? This is bulls--t and blacks need to start protecting themselves against cops coming at us with guns drawn. Maybe killing THEM is the only way to draw attention to the murderous NYPD!
04/25/2008 10:05AM
ACQUITTED
Racist piece of sh*t. All cops are pigs!
04/25/2008 10:05AM
Whose fault?
The system is broken. Gangsta rap is all over the place and cops are on steroids. Need I say more? Life in general is not worth much. You can abort a child up to 9 months and if you murder someone on the street...you're out of prison in what? 15 years?
04/25/2008 10:06AM
Not Guilty
Does anyone forget that this guy drove head on into the undercover police van. What did thes guys think was going to happen? I am so happy the verdict is not guilty.
04/25/2008 10:07AM
so sad
it's a very tragic outcome. no accountability on the cop's behalf, but remember everyone, God takes care of his own. he always has, and he always will.
04/25/2008 10:08AM
Upholding the Law
The police did what they were trained to do. Nodoubt, they are paying dearly for their efforts.
04/25/2008 10:08AM
Yes!
yes..Yes..YES!!!!!!!!!
04/25/2008 10:08AM
There is a greater Judge, man can direct his own steps
How can a man shoot and kill someone, not with one shot but 30, Lord have mercy on his soul.
04/25/2008 10:09AM
God Bless Everyone Involved
Vengence is mine, said the Lord!
04/25/2008 10:11AM
Figures!
This is all politics. Obviously the judge is making sure his career will not suffer! This decision is based on his future aspirations!
04/25/2008 10:11AM
LIfe
When are the NYC police realize that the life of black man is precious in God' sight also?
04/25/2008 10:12AM
Cooperman for Prez
Thank God for a fair judge!
04/25/2008 10:14AM
In Defense of the Cops
Come on! If someone were driving their vehicle into me after I identified myself as an officer and told them to stop and get out of the car, I would shoot until the car stopped. Follow police instructions - and don't try to run them over while you're trying to get away!
04/25/2008 10:14AM
good
justice. be a thug and you will pay
04/25/2008 10:17AM
Again The Justice System Failed
Again the horrible message is sent that this is "ok" gun down unarmed citizens & it's all in a day's work!
04/25/2008 10:17AM
An unfortunate incident
But for all of you crying foul, I would love to see you exercise restraint on your job everytime (which for a cop is probably at least daily) when encountering a hostile situation at 4am in the morning, in a seedy part of town, and after a car has lunged towards you. It is just an all around difficult situation and shows once again how dangerous policing is. I imagine there are 100's of officers out there who wish that had pulled a gun first, did not, and consequently left a spouse to raise kids on their own.
04/25/2008 10:18AM
Open season on black men
To be painted as thugs still does not give the men in blue the right to gun down unarmed innocent men! They will have to live with what they have done!
04/25/2008 10:18AM
RACIST NY
We all know what the verdict would be if it was white people killed by black cops... Now as a white man I will be hated more( more looks on the train etc) Everyone should be ashamed of a city where people can be blasted in the streets with no consequences to the police. I am really upset about this.
04/25/2008 10:19AM
Um
So, Murdering Scum, is that what you are? Or are you trying to say that's who the police are (the same murdering scum you'd call in a second if you're stupid butt was in a jam). Idiot.
04/25/2008 10:20AM
Give me a break
Why wasn't there such outrage when OJ was acquitted of mudering 2 white people. Lets move on to the important matters now..like the economy!
04/25/2008 10:20AM
Appaled
God bless those who comment that the verdict was justified, it shows that ignorance is bliss. On judgement day those cops will have to answer to the LORD & vengeance will be his.
04/25/2008 10:21AM
RIGHT VERDICT
When you use your car as a weapon and don't stop when told to by the police this is what happens.
04/25/2008 10:22AM
KARMA
Those who rejoice in the verdict have the same accounting awaiting them as do the murderers acquitted today.
04/25/2008 10:25AM
1 less...
Someone DIED! who is responsible for that?
04/25/2008 10:25AM
What?
Are you people insane? Thank GOD those cops were acquitted. How could it be racism? ONE OF THE COPS WAS BLACK.
04/25/2008 10:25AM
????
Does anyone realize that 2 of the cops were Black?? The whole situation was terrible, but why always cry racism? If a white guy kills another white guy is it racist?
04/25/2008 10:26AM
wont be the one
Once again they dish it we eat it I wont be the one victums dont geta second chance this soilder warns you now you got yours I got mine your call
04/25/2008 10:26AM
Justified
Yes, I think 50 bullets was excessive, but people forget that police officers have the right to use deadly force if they feel their life is threatened and someone is using deadly force against them. In this case, the guys rammed the car into the police officer after saying they had guns and acting like thugs. The judge said that the list of people the prosecution put on the witness stand were nothing but thugs with felony convictions with absolutely no creditbility. If these guys were such upstanding citizens, what were they doing in an illegal bar that served as a drug dealing den and as a prostitution hub? I think the cops did what they had to do at that moment. I do not believe they set out to maliciously kill and wound other people. They were doing their jobs.
04/25/2008 10:27AM
:)
These shots were coming from 3 different locations, these cops didn't know who was shooting. There would have been no shooting except Mr Bell used his car as a weapon. Don't you think these men want to go home at the end of the day. Remember how much you hate the cops next time you call 911. It's no wonder they don't want to respond.
04/25/2008 10:27AM
NYC-Admin
Only the involved know for sure. Maybe it was the right decision. If all officers got off 30 shots...then it's excessive. But only one officer. During the heat of the matter...you shoot and do a count of how many rounds were already fired if you deem it life or death. This verdict is right. A no-win situation all around. Poor families and poor officers who must live with this forever.
04/25/2008 10:27AM
queensdean
Oh Lord........now lets hope the Feds get involved
04/25/2008 10:28AM
Shocked
I don't know what to say. A life is lost and two kids have no father. I don't know what is going with this world.
04/25/2008 10:30AM
Unbelivable
How many times will cops get away with murder in this country? It's like the wild west out here and the cops are the enemy.
04/25/2008 10:34AM
I wonder...
I was taught early in life to respect the law and the officers who enforce it. I wonder why police "injustice" never happened to me?
04/25/2008 10:36AM
shameful
no respect for authority, the loss of precious life, skewed judicial system, and too many people taking sides and failing to see the shame on our society by all involved.
04/25/2008 10:36AM
Verdict
I am very upset do we have in justice in this world, what was the purpose for killing him anyway, God bless his family our real judge is GOD he will get the last say so in this one.
04/25/2008 10:36AM
BAD VERDICT
THES COPS SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONVICTED DENISE
04/25/2008 10:36AM
what's next?
Sounds like the news coverage is a bit disappointed , just waiting for that riot to happen, huh? Too Bad ! Keep going with your coverage you'll get yourselves another LosAngeles after Rodney King if you keep up the good work!
04/25/2008 10:37AM
Disgusting
I think it's absolutely disgusting that those cold-blooded MURDERERS got off scot-free. They killed an innocent man who was only just starting to taste life and horribly wounded his two friends. Justice was NOT served. It figures, though. I bet if Bell and his friends had been white, the so-called "cops" would've gotten their asses thrown in the slammer. And as far as "ACQUITTED" goes, he/she is nothing but an illiterate loser!
04/25/2008 10:37AM
Sad fact of life.
It's a sad situation all around. But just remember who it is you call whenever one of these thugs threatens your life OR YOUR POSSESSIONS --- the cops. They risk their lives to protect you and YOUR STUFF. Would you do the same for a complete stranger day after day?
04/25/2008 10:38AM
Let the riots begin
Thank God these brave men wer aquitted. And to all the racists idiots posting here, wasn't one of the police officers black? Seriously, go find something else to complain about.
04/25/2008 10:42AM
Race Card
Stop playing the race card out there you Rev. Al Sharpton wannabes. TWO OF THE COPS WERE BLACK! Stop being thugs and shit like this won't happen.
04/25/2008 10:43AM
F**k The Police
To the bell family god bless you all. To the wife of Sean Bell keep your head up greater things will prevail for all those waiting for equal justice. The pigs are so politically and police state protected they will continue to treat us less then no matter the color of skin the majority of porkers are narrow minded ,they all think there tough, but in the end of the day they have familys and needs and rights just like civilians. Its the ones that take that gun and badge crap to the head. I would have crapped my pants if someone in plain clothes in NYC at like 3 am came charging at me weilding a gun, regardless of the claims of them shouting police. People have been stuck up by plain clothes impersonating a police officer. Those of you who reside in the hoods, ghettos you know what im talking about. We have to watch are backs for the people in the streets and the police, there almost one in the same. F**K NY PR*CKS N D*CKS (NYPD)
04/25/2008 10:46AM
All Als fault
The cops got off because the system Hates Al Sharpton. If Al sharpton wasnt pushing so hard at least the cop who was drinking in the club would have gotten something
04/25/2008 10:47AM
God does not sleep
God does not sleep, what you do in the dark is like day to him. Time and time again it is proven that a black mans life has little value in American society, yet we continue to join there army, fight there wars, continue to allow them to rape Africa by stealing its wealth and re-write our history. To white Americans, black men are all criminals, whether you wear a business suit or a priest at a church, we are still labeled as criminals regardless. The media always have us in a negative light but never the ones who own the media outlets. They brain wash our women to doubt there beauty with falseness. I am a black man in the city of New York and I do not fear my brothers and sisters, I fear those who are not like me because I know, my life means nothing to them and there will never be justice for me.
04/25/2008 10:47AM
Disgusting.
I'm shocked. These cops need to be trained to use their brains, not their guns. This is a lesson to all cops that they can get away with murder.
04/25/2008 10:51AM
(Cops) Thugs With A Badge
The number of shots keep going up to murder black men. Next time, and there will be a next time, 100 bullets. When will it stop!!
04/25/2008 10:51AM
Y R WE SURPRISED
We shouldn't be surprised. Prosecutors work w/ ALL PoPo, why are we surprised. They would never make their own guilty. Think about they didn't even take the stand but the surviving victims did. Give me a break..........
04/25/2008 10:51AM
SO SAD
I must say I am sad at some of the comments made. No matter what a good man lost his life, and a little girl lost her father, and a mother lost her son. It's sad that people today are so ignorant and will say things as oh "he should not have drove head on into the cops." Let me tell you my brother is a Newark police officer & even said that was TRULY excessive. Yes Shawn & his friends should have just stopped and got out the car, but would they have gotten beat to death because once again they were innocent guys leaving a bar. There is no excuse for 30 plus shoots from one officer's gun when the criminal has no gun. If you think about it NO CHARGES where brought against the other guys with Shawn Bell so that proves right there they were not comitting any crime. They were the victims of cops using excessive force. One day those cops and judge will have to answer for this and God is not pleased. We just need to pray and aske ourselves what has this country come too.
04/25/2008 10:52AM
Common Sense
Anyone who made any comment on this board%u2026simply do this: Ask yourself if this was you at the strip club (I know I celebrated my Bachelor party at one) or someone you cared about and they were shot in a barrage of 50 bullets and had committed no crime and done nothing wrong other than be a little boozy and maybe mouth off to a fellow patron, how would you feel? Bell and his friends did not deserve to be fired upon and certainly not be injured or murdered. There were a million other ways that specially trained officers could have handled that situation without resorting to firing their weapons without ever even seeing a gun or ever being fired upon. Common sense demands that you realize what they did was wrong. They performed their duties poorly and it resulted in the death of an innocent civilian. They should be accountable for that. Bell and his friends weren%u2019t thugs%u2026they did nothing wrong. I%u2019ve been in much worse situations under similar circumstances where I possibly deserved to be arrested (making terroristic threats, fighting, etc.) and I never even considered that the police would open fire on me. I%u2019ve spoken to some of my NJ cop friends and they all agreed that these cops were p*ssies and that they were so afraid of getting shot at that they overreacted. If these cops were soldiers in Iraq and killed 3 locals under similar circumstances they would have been court marshaled. BTW: all of the people who are making cruel and uncaring remarks are obviously racists who believe that all young black males have it coming. I hope that the people (black, white, etc.) are outraged enough that they take to the streets and tear the place apart. It%u2019s unfortunately but it%u2019s the only way to deter similar verdicts in the future because the courts will have to weigh the consequences of their actions. If it was my brother/son who died by the hands of those cops, I would be first one out there looking for revenge/justice with no regard for myself (and I%u2019m an educated, white male with no criminal history, a family and a good career). I was raised: Blood for blood, regardless of the consequences. It%u2019s a responsibility, not a decision.
04/25/2008 10:52AM
Cheers for the Detectives
Justice served. Detectives were just doing their jobs, getting dangerous people off the streets.
04/25/2008 10:52AM
Sadness and Sorrow
I bet if Al Sharpton wasnt a part of this those cops would have got something. Doesnt anyone notice wherever sharpton is the cops get off with nothing. Definitly not a coincodence
04/25/2008 10:52AM
Free sneakers!
I wish the Pope was still in town.
04/25/2008 10:52AM
A BLACK MAN'S LIFE IS WORTH NOTHING
i agree with you kim...i told Lisa this AM that I am seriosully hurt inside for NYC, queens residents, black people in general and for the bell family and his fiance/wife.....this shows you ONCE AGAIN that a Black life is WORTHLESS!!!! It REMAINS open season on Black Men...my heart is so broken. But they will look HIGH & LOW for any white girl missing for 20 MINUTES!!!!! and nuthin for nuthin....racist people are trippin when they attack Rev Wright or Michelle Obama sayin she is UN patriotic on her comments about "America can be a mean place" they need to wake up and SEE what WE SEE!!!!!.....*&^%$#@ look....don't get me started....
04/25/2008 10:53AM
Hello....
First of all, wasn't one of the cops black? How can people accuse others of putting no "value" to a black man's life. We are all human, this was a tragedy regardless of racial factors. A man lost his life untimely. That is the issue, not a racial issue.
04/25/2008 10:53AM
fair&unbiased
I'm very glad. There was no crime committed. It was very unfortunate that SB lost his life but the officers should not have been found guilty. They perceived a threat. For those of you who condemn Oliver look at the facts. The man made 600 arrests and had never fired his weapon. The judge based his decision on the law, not on emotion. Perhaps when the officers wanted to move the trial to a location outside of Queens the prosecution should have agreed. There was no way they could have gotten a fair jury trial in Queens and the prosecution knew that. They wanted them to hang. Emotion was not a factor in the decision as it would have been had they been in front of a jury.
04/25/2008 10:53AM
Justice
minority officers were invovled, racism, no, justice, yes. if the Bell victims were white, there wouldn't be an issue.They stated in testimony that they knew that they were the police, yet they ran and attempted to run them down. Once again common senseprevails
04/25/2008 10:53AM
common sense
Anyone who made any comment on this board%u2026simply do this: Ask yourself if this was you at the strip club (I know I celebrated my Bachelor party at one) or someone you cared about and they were shot in a barrage of 50 bullets and had committed no crime and done nothing wrong other than be a little boozy and maybe mouth off to a fellow patron, how would you feel? Bell and his friends did not deserve to be fired upon and certainly not be injured or murdered. There were a million other ways that specially trained officers could have handled that situation without resorting to firing their weapons without ever even seeing a gun or ever being fired upon. Common sense demands that you realize what they did was wrong. They performed their duties poorly and it resulted in the death of an innocent civilian. They should be accountable for that. Bell and his friends weren%u2019t thugs%u2026they did nothing wrong. I%u2019ve been in much worse situations under similar circumstances where I possibly deserved to be arrested (making terroristic threats, fighting, etc.) and I never even considered that the police would open fire on me. I%u2019ve spoken to some of my NJ cop friends and they all agreed that these cops were p*ssies and that they were so afraid of getting shot at that they overreacted. If these cops were soldiers in Iraq and killed 3 locals under similar circumstances they would have been court marshaled. BTW: all of the people who are making cruel and uncaring remarks are obviously racists who believe that all young black males have it coming. I hope that the people (black, white, etc.) are outraged enough that they take to the streets and tear the place apart. It%u2019s unfortunately but it%u2019s the only way to deter similar verdicts in the future because the courts will have to weigh the consequences of their actions. If it was my brother/son who died by the hands of those cops, I would be first one out there looking for revenge/justice with no regard for myself (and I%u2019m an educated, white male with no criminal history, a family and a good career). I was raised: Blood for blood, regardless of the consequences. It%u2019s a responsibility, not a decision.
04/25/2008 10:54AM
May God Have Mercy On Us
My fear has increased after this verdict, but so most my prayer life. I have a 21 year old son, and everytime he comes home I thank God, because I know as a young black man he's a target for the cops,which he has been approched by them on his way to work @ 5:00am in the morning. I'm sure there are many Mother's out there that feel as I feel.
04/25/2008 10:54AM
Aftermath
31 shots cannot be standard operating procedure. I just hope Far Rockaway is safe when I get home.
04/25/2008 10:54AM
fair&unbiased
I am delighted
04/25/2008 10:54AM
Reckless Endangerment
At the VERY, VERY LEAST, they should have been convicted of reckless endangerment. Even Bloomberg, upon hearing of this tragic incident, commented that the shots fired were "EXCESSIVE." And the fact that these guys had / have a past -- big deal. Whodoesn't?! Should that have come into play? Absolutely not! These cops should get what they rightfully deserve and it shouldn't be pretty.
04/25/2008 10:55AM
why now
It's time for the black communities to use all it's energy and become galvenized and outraged when they mistreat each other.These guys are crimminal thugs with histories of violence,where's the outrage then.Where was the outrage when one of the "victums" was beating the snout out of his girl friend in the open,in the streets,He's physically unable to work,living off of Sharpton.It's only wrong when it's an outsider (white/oriental/police)Everyone should treat life as a gift ALL THE TIME.
04/25/2008 10:55AM
common sense
Anyone who made any comment on this board%u2026simply do this: Ask yourself if this was you at the strip club (I know I celebrated my Bachelor party at one) or someone you cared about and they were shot in a barrage of 50 bullets and had committed no crime and done nothing wrong other than be a little boozy and maybe mouth off to a fellow patron, how would you feel? Bell and his friends did not deserve to be fired upon and certainly not be injured or murdered. There were a million other ways that specially trained officers could have handled that situation without resorting to firing their weapons without ever even seeing a gun or ever being fired upon. Common sense demands that you realize what they did was wrong. They performed their duties poorly and it resulted in the death of an innocent civilian. They should be accountable for that. Bell and his friends weren%u2019t thugs%u2026they did nothing wrong. I%u2019ve been in much worse situations under similar circumstances where I possibly deserved to be arrested (making terroristic threats, fighting, etc.) and I never even considered that the police would open fire on me.
04/25/2008 10:57AM
SEAN BELL WAS NOT A THUG
These racist posts from people are ignorant. There are Black Cops who devalue lives EVERYDAY behind the BLUE WALL of their shields. This is about the abhorent behaviour of Cops towards UNARMED CITIZENS....how are they Thugs?? Was Amadou a THUG? Was Louima a THUG? no.....BUT THEY WERE ALL UNARMED!!!!!
04/25/2008 10:57AM
Police-less society
That's the exact ignorant mentallity officers deal with on a daily basis. It's amazing people still become police officers this day an age. Could you imagine how miserable all our lives would be without them? All live would become worthless because the scum of the earth will run it. Think about that the next time you disrespect a cop.
04/25/2008 11:01AM
JUSTICE IN AMERICA.....
We really have to wait for more one hundred years to believe the dream of dr.King some day will be reality.
04/25/2008 11:02AM
Hard call
No one can understand what the parties involved felt the night of shooting. Clearly there was wrong on the part of the cops, 50 shots is exccessive. However, there is reasonable doubt as to the circumstances leading up to the shooting. Justice was not served. Lesser charges should have been brought against the cops. But no matter what Sean Bell is gone and his family now has to live with that and that is truly unfair. No matter what non-whites will ALWAYS be seen differently in law enforcement's eye regardless of the color of the cops. Just being black or latino, does not automatically make you guilty of something.
04/25/2008 11:02AM
Justice
I think Justice has been served I don't believe that they should have not been guilty of protecting themself but I think that they should have atleast received some kind of jail term for reckless shooting 50 bullets is much but I guess they felt differently! as for the fiance of Bell my god Bless you and your children and hope that you will find peace with this verdict! Al sharpton i guess it is time that you move on to another person just to get our name out there I think he needs to get a life and stop depending on Black family's to make you money get a real job!
04/25/2008 11:03AM
Dispickable
I think it's time for a black man to step in to the white house
04/25/2008 11:06AM
Angry for a different reason.
Rather than look at it logically, and see that both sides had to give their story to the judge and he felt his decision was based on more credibiity..Look at the typical responses...whoa is me..whoa is me...look what THEY have done to us and now they think they have the right to kill us! Take a look in all the news...you are killing yourselves and anyone/everyone around you that you can mug/rape/murder. Your people are the ones with NO REGARD for decency or human life. Irony of this case is that thugs met the law at the wrong time...and funny how come every brother owns a "gun" or sings about his "glock" etc.. This is the example you set for yourselves and for your future generations. You have no respect for yourselves on a daily basis but when something happens the Rev. Al is always there. I bet you all call the Police when something happens to you because then the shoe is on the other foot. Forget the talk about vengeance and being a "soldier" ...why are you in the country's war?...or in the one in your own racist head? How about skipping the threats of revenge and talk about education and pull yourselves out of the self-imposed slump that we ALL end up paying for. Did you forget to read that both friends in the car had EXTENSIVE records....but it is ok that they go to jail and we end up paying for them anyway. Just think that a good and honest human being has to live with taking a life,whether it was right or wrong, and it is something they are forced to live with. Right away...it becomes racist...even though some officers were black. Wait and see what happens when all the cops decide that the job they have isnt' worth the money or the lack of respect and there is no more NYPD or one of a lesser quality...Only then could you liken it to the Wild West...there would be no law...see how long this city lasts! In closing, I do feel horrible for the woman and her kids as I think this was a terrible tragedy.
04/25/2008 11:08AM
UNBELIEVABLE!
This was not justified! I say atleast one of the three officers should have been charged! The justice system does not work and has not worked for a long time. I may take the Police Exam.
04/25/2008 11:08AM
Awesome Verdict
Outstanding!!!! Let's see, All "victims" have no job and street phamacist is not a job. In a club, picking up hookers and starting fights. Making believe you have a gun, threaten to shoot someone, get in your car, try to run over some cops and then shot and wonder why? I pee on Bells grave. Note to all NYPD, let the scumbags kill each other when they are done, go leave a report. Do no por-active police work.
04/25/2008 11:10AM
This just in:
Randy: "I don't know dog. It didn't do it for me." Paula: "It's like a breath of fresh air." Simon: "Absolutely horrible."
04/25/2008 11:11AM
Real Nice
This is from a post below. This comment is the exact reason this happend!! "ProtectYourSelf So now is it going to be okay for a citizen to fear for his or her life when a cop approaches them and lawfully shoot that cop? Why is it that black cops never shoot white men? This is bulls--t and blacks need to start protecting themselves against cops coming at us with guns drawn. Maybe killing THEM is the only way to draw attention to the murderous NYPD!" This comment is the exactly what causes thing like things like this to happen you idiot!